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  1. 2012-06-05 18:29:24     cantao  Hi, guys. Warning, weird stuff ahead...
  2. 2012-06-05 18:29:37     cantao  I'm using herbstluftwm from git
  3. 2012-06-05 18:29:51     The-Compiler    doesn't sound too weird yet. :P
  4. 2012-06-05 18:30:02     cantao  The-Compiler: let me finish the story ;)
  5. 2012-06-05 18:30:20     The-Compiler    sure
  6. 2012-06-05 18:30:21     cantao  My original language (Brazilian Portuguese) uses accented characters
  7. 2012-06-05 18:30:45     Guest36331      Wow, that's weird tho.
  8. 2012-06-05 18:31:00     cantao  Agree! :D
  9. 2012-06-05 18:31:04     cantao  The weird part is:
  10. 2012-06-05 18:31:42     cantao  If a split a tag in two containers, and open a xterm on each one, I can use accents *only* on the left, never on the right.
  11. 2012-06-05 18:31:44     cantao  :-O
  12. 2012-06-05 18:31:48     The-Compiler    (reminds me of a bug in Ubuntu Unity where some users (I think portuguese ones?) couldn't use Unity on Saturdays because it crashed on the ò or so.)
  13. 2012-06-05 18:32:03     cantao  The-Compiler: ahahaha, cool :D
  14. 2012-06-05 18:32:20     The-Compiler    cantao: how do you type the accents?
  15. 2012-06-05 18:32:53     cantao  The-Compiler: the accent itself (it doesn't show at first), then the letter: ' + a == á
  16. 2012-06-05 18:33:09     The-Compiler    I use a compose key and I noticed it sometimes just randomly stops working
  17. 2012-06-05 18:33:12     cantao  If I want only the ', its ' + space
  18. 2012-06-05 18:33:17     The-Compiler    cantao: and this is totally reproducable?
  19. 2012-06-05 18:33:22     The-Compiler    (that's called dead keys btw)
  20. 2012-06-05 18:34:04     cantao  The-Compiler: yes, it's happening for some time now. Figured the left works, right not pattern just now
  21. 2012-06-05 18:34:18     cantao  Let me do a simple test, moving the xterm from left to right
  22. 2012-06-05 18:34:19     Guest36331      cantao: How about other terminal emulators like urxvt or terminal (lxde-terminal emulator) ?
  23. 2012-06-05 18:34:51     The-Compiler    cantao: so you just go to a new tab, press Mod+Enter (new xterm), Mod+o (new frame), Mod+l (focus to the right), Mod+Enter?
  24. 2012-06-05 18:35:21     cantao  The-Compiler: exactly, with the exception that I use Mod+t for xterm
  25. 2012-06-05 18:35:27     hpd     I just tried that with german deadkeys and it worked
  26. 2012-06-05 18:35:37     cantao  Guest36331: completely unable to make urxvt accept accented characters
  27. 2012-06-05 18:35:54     cantao  hpd: it works on every other X application
  28. 2012-06-05 18:36:04     hpd     I used xterm
  29. 2012-06-05 18:36:11     cantao  hpd: only xterm presents this quite weird behaviour
  30. 2012-06-05 18:36:19     cantao  weird *and* annoying, by the way
  31. 2012-06-05 18:36:33     Guest36331      cantao: how about terminal?
  32. 2012-06-05 18:36:40     cantao  tested: if I move the xterm to and from the right pane, accents stop and work again
  33. 2012-06-05 18:36:47     Guest36331      I use it currently on my thinkpad as terminal emulator
  34. 2012-06-05 18:36:54     cantao  don't have terminal, but I can't give Konsole a try
  35. 2012-06-05 18:36:59     cantao  Just a moment to test it
  36. 2012-06-05 18:37:37     cantao  hum... Konsole works fine... probably some xterm issue then
  37. 2012-06-05 18:37:50     hpd     still weird
  38. 2012-06-05 18:37:56     cantao  very
  39. 2012-06-05 18:38:37     cantao  hum... never tried floating or pseudotile
  40. 2012-06-05 18:38:42     cantao  trying now
  41. 2012-06-05 18:39:28     Guest36331      Oh, does anyone here use Jdownloader with HLWM?
  42. 2012-06-05 18:39:46     cantao  Ah! Another finding!
  43. 2012-06-05 18:40:15     cantao  If I switch terminals using the keyboard (Mod+l, Mod+r) the weird behaviour happens
  44. 2012-06-05 18:40:24     cantao  If I switch between with the mouse, not!
  45. 2012-06-05 18:40:26     Guest36331      Its key bindings doesn't work and the cursor location is totally wrong except for some
  46. 2012-06-05 18:40:37     Guest36331      cantao: Huh?
  47. 2012-06-05 18:40:42     Guest36331      cantao: then switch with mod+Tab
  48. 2012-06-05 18:40:46     hpd     cantao: which keymap do you use exactly? And where is ' on that keymap, so I can try it myself
  49. 2012-06-05 18:40:50     Guest36331      :P
  50. 2012-06-05 18:41:20     cantao  Guest36331: I use mod+Tab with cycle, not cycle_all
  51. 2012-06-05 18:41:31     cantao  hpd: br-abnt2
  52. 2012-06-05 18:43:03     cantao  Guest36331: anyway, same thing with Mod+Tab :(
  53. 2012-06-05 18:44:10     The-Compiler    Guest36331: I think there is a general problem with Java stuff and there is some fix I don't remember
  54. 2012-06-05 18:45:01     cantao  Guest36331: for Java stuff, http://superuser.com/questions/400766/netbeans-java-shows-empty-window-in-tiling-window-manager-awesome-wm
  55. 2012-06-05 18:45:38     cantao  Usually it's a problem with Java not recognizing the window manager amongst the ones it has listed internally
  56. 2012-06-05 18:45:59     The-Compiler    Guest36331: http://tools.suckless.org/wmname use this to rename it to LG3D
  57. 2012-06-05 18:46:27     The-Compiler    cantao: I can't reproduce that, but I'm using a compose key, not dead keys
  58. 2012-06-05 18:46:51     cantao  The-Compiler: sorry, what do you call a "compose key"?
  59. 2012-06-05 18:47:05     The-Compiler    cantao: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
  60. 2012-06-05 18:47:53     cantao  The-Compiler: ah, ok. Brazilian keyboards don't spot these
  61. 2012-06-05 18:47:59     The-Compiler    basically, all keys work normally, but I defined the menu key (on the right side on newer keyboards between alt and ctrl) as compose key, so for example if I press <Menu><"><u> I get ü
  62. 2012-06-05 18:48:12     The-Compiler    or <Menu><o></> for ø
  63. 2012-06-05 18:48:22     The-Compiler    same thing for basically any character you can imagine :p
  64. 2012-06-05 18:48:28     cantao  The-Compiler: cool :)
  65. 2012-06-05 18:48:53     The-Compiler    because I'm Swiss where you need äöü a lot, but I use the US keyboard layout because it's easier for coding
  66. 2012-06-05 18:49:30     cantao  The-Compiler: we used to have ü also, but we droped it on the last major language revision (yes, we have that!)
  67. 2012-06-05 18:51:08     cantao  HLWM has some mail list or feature request site, etc?
  68. 2012-06-05 18:51:19     cantao  bug report maybe?
  69. 2012-06-05 18:51:29     hpd     cantao: no, you just hilight thors<TAB>
  70. 2012-06-05 18:51:57     cantao  hpd: right to the boss :)
  71. 2012-06-05 18:53:37     The-Compiler    thörsten` is still searching a suckless bug tracker :P
  72. 2012-06-05 18:54:05     The-Compiler    (and I find thörsten` a way more creative way of not highlighting him than thors<TAB> :P)
  73. 2012-06-05 18:54:23     hpd     :D
  74. 2012-06-05 18:54:27     cantao  :D
  75. 2012-06-05 18:55:38     cantao  The-Compiler: yeah, bug trackers in general are a pain in the you know where
  76. 2012-06-05 18:56:19     Guest36331      arse?
  77. 2012-06-05 18:57:10     cantao  well, I'll do a few more tests with X config / HLWM config / etc to try understand better what's happening. Meanwhile I'll use the mouse or write only on the right side of the screen :D
  78. 2012-06-05 18:57:31     The-Compiler    what would be interesting... does it also happen if you open two xterms in one frame?
  79. 2012-06-05 18:57:39     cantao  Guest36331: by the way, what's the difference between "arse" and "ass"?
  80. 2012-06-05 18:57:57     cantao  The-Compiler: and alternate them with Alt-Tab?
  81. 2012-06-05 18:58:08     cantao  The-Compiler: yes, it happens also
  82. 2012-06-05 18:58:28     The-Compiler    Also, I think every language using the latin alphabet should drop non-ASCII letters and replace them by something else.
  83. 2012-06-05 18:58:42     cantao  The-Compiler: it seems something is getting stuck with the keyboard navigation
  84. 2012-06-05 18:59:00     The-Compiler    if you switch the focus by mouse it doesn't happen then? :P
  85. 2012-06-05 18:59:10     cantao  Nope. Mouse is completelly fine.
  86. 2012-06-05 18:59:41     cantao  Well, except for the fact that I *don't like* using it :p
  87. 2012-06-05 19:00:48     The-Compiler    hah, you're right!
  88. 2012-06-05 19:01:02     The-Compiler    should've told this before, when navigating with the keyboard I can reproduce it
  89. 2012-06-05 19:01:49     cantao  really???
  90. 2012-06-05 19:02:08     The-Compiler    with urxvt
  91. 2012-06-05 19:02:16     The-Compiler    now I FINALLY now what broke my compose key
  92. 2012-06-05 19:02:17     The-Compiler    afk now, food
  93. 2012-06-05 19:02:37     cantao  The-Compiler: Ah! *Very* cool :D
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  95. 2012-06-05 19:06:24     cantao  thorsten`:
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  99. 2012-06-05 19:26:12     The-Compiler    for me it only happens in urxvt, not in xterm :D
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  101. 2012-06-05 19:33:13     The-Compiler    and now compose is broken in general.
  102. 2012-06-05 19:37:13     The-Compiler    can someone try to reproduce? Run "setxkbmap -option compose:menu" (if you have a menu key), open urxvt twice, press <Menu><"><u> (ü should appear), switch to the left one by keyboard, do the same ("u should appear)
  103. 2012-06-05 19:44:32     hpd     The-Compiler: I have this setup on my laptop and I never had problems with it (despite typing umlauts quite frequently)
  104. 2012-06-05 19:44:52     hpd     But I don't have the newest git-version installed on the laptop. Is this required?
  105. 2012-06-05 19:45:01     hpd     (of hlwm, of course)
  106. 2012-06-05 19:46:20     The-Compiler    No idea. I think it happened since a long time ago :P
  107. 2012-06-05 19:46:48     The-Compiler    I also use aur/rxvt-unicode-patched
  108. 2012-06-05 19:46:51     cantao  hpd: No idea either.
  109. 2012-06-05 19:47:15     hpd     what exactly is patched in rxvt-unicode-patched?
  110. 2012-06-05 19:47:20     cantao  standard xterm from exherbo
  111. 2012-06-05 19:47:27     zLouD   the unicorns!
  112. 2012-06-05 19:48:32     cantao  zLouD: hum?
  113. 2012-06-05 19:51:34     The-Compiler    hpd: http://paste.the-compiler.org/view/376ac6ef
  114. 2012-06-05 19:52:02     The-Compiler    hpd: basically just fixing that ugly lines at the end of the window when the size isn't exactly a multiply of the font heigth
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  116. 2012-06-05 19:52:39     hpd     hmm, gentoo doesn't have the second patch
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  118. 2012-06-05 20:00:16     The-Compiler    I don't think that makes a difference though :p
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  121. 2012-06-05 20:00:56     cantao  The-Compiler: agreed.
  122. 2012-06-05 20:01:23     hpd     yeah. I just tried and couldn't reproduce this bug (with either urxvt or xterm), as I expected